Lewis Carroll on Fairly Modern Scholasticism

Алиса: от уксуса — куксятся (ru)

Mon, 01 Jan 0001 00:00:00 +0000

От уксуса — куксятся

Не мое. Заимстованно с livelib.ru:https://www.livelib.ru/story/11973-alice-in-wonderland-lyuis-kerroll (https://www.livelib.ru/selection/18241-zapiski-knizhnogo-zanudy)

Обычно в связи с «Алисой» рассуждаешь о каламбурном английском языке и отсутствии аналогов в русском. Но один раз русский язык выгодно отличился, а Демурова это отличие нашла и использовала. Вот этот гениальный эпизод:

— От перца, верно, и начинают всем перечить… Алиса очень обрадовалась, что открыла новое правило. — От уксуса — куксятся, — продолжала она задумчиво, — от горчицы — огорчаются, от лука — лукавят, от вина — винятся, а от сдобы — добреют. Как жалко, что никто об этом не знает… Все было бы так просто. Ели бы сдобу — и добрели!

What’s the French for fiddle-de-dee?

Mon, 01 Jan 0001 00:00:00 +0000

What’s the French for fiddle-de-dee?

[AL]: Since childhood I wanted to learn the answer to the Red Queen’s question: “What’s the French for fiddle-de-dee?” (Actually, I read it in Russian, and the question was: “Как по-французски «фу ты, ну ты»?”.)

This not about translating a regular word or a regular expression, and not even about translating an idiomatic expression - Red Queen asks for translating a totally nonsensical word, something that seems to have no meaning at all! In response Alice demands what language is “fiddle-de-dee”, which seems to be pointless: so, OK, let’s say she’s told it was Shqip (=Albanian, for our Russian-speaking reader) - how’s it going to help? Inevitably, the next question should be: What does it mean in Shqip? Interestingly, that Demurova (Russian translator), skips the first step: in Russian translation Alice asks for the meaning, not for the language (“quote”). There is an interested twist in Belorussian translation: Alice asked to translate “Люлі-лялі-лей” into English. Then, she says, she would be able to translate it in French. Well, we can translate it in English: “fiddle-de-dee”, even though “fiddle-de-dee” is not English… Is it helpful?

Alice: Translating cultural differences

Mon, 01 Jan 0001 00:00:00 +0000

[AL]:

What makes Alice a great learning example is that it is not just about translating some idiomatic expressions, or even total nonsense (see previous section for translation of “fiddle-dee-dee” into French). It is also about translating cultural differences.

There exists so many translations of the text, that the translators just had to take cultural differences into account.

Example:

Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, John Tenniel, 1866

Alice: Translating to exotic languages

Mon, 01 Jan 0001 00:00:00 +0000

[AL]: Well, like really exotic…

Emoji Translation:

from here – I think it sucks.

Blissymbolics:

Alice (in Wonderland): [blissname] + [girl] + [curiosity,curiousness,inquisitiveness])

from here

from here– and I think it sucks, too.

Alice: Translating Jabberwocky (ru)

Mon, 01 Jan 0001 00:00:00 +0000

https://author.today/reader/420061/4174545

https://vad-nes.livejournal.com/838865.html